ERIK PRESTMO
2005-08-16 22:00:52 UTC
Subject: Hanoi Jane
Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 07:19:31 CST
I did not write this , but I would like to pass
it along .
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Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 07:19:31 CST
I did not write this , but I would like to pass
it along .
Jane Fonda
Looks like Hanoi Jane may be honored as one of the
"100 Women of the
Century". JANE FONDA remembered? Unfortunately many
have forgotten and still
countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda
betrayed not only the idea
of our "country" but the men who served and
sacrificed during Vietnam.
There are few things I have strong visceral
reactions to, but Jane Fonda's
participation in what I believe to be blatant
treason, is one of them. Part
of my conviction comes from exposure to those who
suffered her attentions.
The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The
pilot's name is Jerry
Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the Commandant of
the USAF Survival School
was a former POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton".
Dragged from a stinking
cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in
clean PJs, he was ordered to
describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist"
the "lenient and humane
treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was
clubbed, and dragged
away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward
upon the camp
Commandant's feet, accidentally pulling the man's
shoe off-which sent that
officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered
from double vision
(which permanently ended his flying days) from the
Vietnamese Col.'s
frenzied application of wooden baton. From 1983-85,
Col. Larry Carrigan was
the 347FW/DO F-4Es). He spent 6 years in the
"Hilton"-the first three of
which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on
faith that he was still
alive. His group, too, got the cleaned/fed/clothed
routine in preparation
for a "peace delegation" visit. They, however, had
time and devised a plan
to get word to the world that they still survived.
Each man secreted a tiny
piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of
his hand. When paraded
before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the
line, shaking each man's
"Aren't you sorry you
bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane
treatment from your
benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an
act, they each palmed her
their sliver of paper. She took them all without
missing a beat. At the end
of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to
the shocked disbelief of
the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge...and
handed him the little
pile. Three men died from the subsequent beatings.
Col. Carrigan was almost
number four. For years after their release, a group
of determined former
POWs Including Col. Carrigan, tried to bring Ms.
Fonda and others up on
charges of treason. I don't know that they used it,
but the charge of
"Negligent Homicide due to Depraved Indifference"
would also seem
appropriate. Her obvious "granting of aid and
comfort to the enemy", alone,
should've been sufficient for the treason count.
However, to date, Jane
Fonda has never been formally
charged with anything and continues to enjoy the
privileged life of the rich
and famous. I, personally, think that this is shame
on us, the American
Citizenry. Part of our shortfall is ignorance: most
don't know such actions
ever took place. Thought you might appreciate the
knowledge. Most of you've
probably already seen this by now, only addition I
might add to these
sentiments is to remember the satisfaction of
relieving myself into the
urinal at some air base or another where "zaps" of
Hanoi Jane's face had
been applied.
To whom it may concern: I was a civilian economic
development advisor in
Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese
communists in South
Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent
27 months in solitary
confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one
year in a "black box"
in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately
poisoned and murdered a
female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban
me Thuot, South Vietnam
whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian
border. At one time, I was
weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is
170 lbs.) We were Jane
Fonda's "war criminals." When Jane Fonda was in
Hanoi, I was asked by the
camp communist political officer if I would be
willing to meet with Jane
Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her
about the real treatment we
POWs were receiving, which was far different from
the treatment purported by
the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as
"humane and lenient."
Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor
on my knees with
outstretched arms with a piece of steel placed on my
hands, and beaten with
a bamboo cane every time my arms dipped. I had the
opportunity to meet with
Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was
released. I asked her if she
would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not
answer me; her former
husband, Tom Hayden, answered for her. She was mind
controlled by her
husband. This does not exemplify someone who should
be honored as "100 Years
of Great Women." After I was released, I was asked
what I thought of Jane
Fonda and the anti-war movement. I said that I held
Joan Baez's husband in
very high regard, for he thought the war was wrong,
burned his draft card
and went to prison in protest. If the other anti-war
protesters took this
same route, it would have brought our judicial
system to a halt and ended
the war much earlier, and there wouldn't be as many
on that somber black
granite wall called the Vietnam Memorial. This is
democracy. This is the
American way. Jane Fonda, on the other hand, chose
to be a traitor, and went
to Hanoi, wore their uniform, propagandized for the
communists, and urged
American soldiers to desert. As we were being
tortured, and some of the POWs
murdered, she called us liars. After her heroes-the
North Vietnamese
communists-took over South Vietnam, they
systematically murdered 80,000
South Vietnamese political prisoners. May their
souls rest on her head
forever. Shame! Shame! (History is a heavy sword in
the hands of those who
refuse to forget it. Think of this the next time you
see Ms. Fonda-Turner at
a Braves game). Please take the time to read and
forward to as many people
as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on
her computer and she needs
to know that
"we will never forget". Lest we forget..."100 years
of great women" Jane
Fonda should never be considered.
______________________________________________________Looks like Hanoi Jane may be honored as one of the
"100 Women of the
Century". JANE FONDA remembered? Unfortunately many
have forgotten and still
countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda
betrayed not only the idea
of our "country" but the men who served and
sacrificed during Vietnam.
There are few things I have strong visceral
reactions to, but Jane Fonda's
participation in what I believe to be blatant
treason, is one of them. Part
of my conviction comes from exposure to those who
suffered her attentions.
The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The
pilot's name is Jerry
Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the Commandant of
the USAF Survival School
was a former POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton".
Dragged from a stinking
cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in
clean PJs, he was ordered to
describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist"
the "lenient and humane
treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was
clubbed, and dragged
away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward
upon the camp
Commandant's feet, accidentally pulling the man's
shoe off-which sent that
officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered
from double vision
(which permanently ended his flying days) from the
Vietnamese Col.'s
frenzied application of wooden baton. From 1983-85,
Col. Larry Carrigan was
the 347FW/DO F-4Es). He spent 6 years in the
"Hilton"-the first three of
which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on
faith that he was still
alive. His group, too, got the cleaned/fed/clothed
routine in preparation
for a "peace delegation" visit. They, however, had
time and devised a plan
to get word to the world that they still survived.
Each man secreted a tiny
piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of
his hand. When paraded
before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the
line, shaking each man's
"Aren't you sorry you
bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane
treatment from your
benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an
act, they each palmed her
their sliver of paper. She took them all without
missing a beat. At the end
of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to
the shocked disbelief of
the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge...and
handed him the little
pile. Three men died from the subsequent beatings.
Col. Carrigan was almost
number four. For years after their release, a group
of determined former
POWs Including Col. Carrigan, tried to bring Ms.
Fonda and others up on
charges of treason. I don't know that they used it,
but the charge of
"Negligent Homicide due to Depraved Indifference"
would also seem
appropriate. Her obvious "granting of aid and
comfort to the enemy", alone,
should've been sufficient for the treason count.
However, to date, Jane
Fonda has never been formally
charged with anything and continues to enjoy the
privileged life of the rich
and famous. I, personally, think that this is shame
on us, the American
Citizenry. Part of our shortfall is ignorance: most
don't know such actions
ever took place. Thought you might appreciate the
knowledge. Most of you've
probably already seen this by now, only addition I
might add to these
sentiments is to remember the satisfaction of
relieving myself into the
urinal at some air base or another where "zaps" of
Hanoi Jane's face had
been applied.
To whom it may concern: I was a civilian economic
development advisor in
Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese
communists in South
Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent
27 months in solitary
confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one
year in a "black box"
in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately
poisoned and murdered a
female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban
me Thuot, South Vietnam
whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian
border. At one time, I was
weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is
170 lbs.) We were Jane
Fonda's "war criminals." When Jane Fonda was in
Hanoi, I was asked by the
camp communist political officer if I would be
willing to meet with Jane
Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her
about the real treatment we
POWs were receiving, which was far different from
the treatment purported by
the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as
"humane and lenient."
Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor
on my knees with
outstretched arms with a piece of steel placed on my
hands, and beaten with
a bamboo cane every time my arms dipped. I had the
opportunity to meet with
Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was
released. I asked her if she
would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not
answer me; her former
husband, Tom Hayden, answered for her. She was mind
controlled by her
husband. This does not exemplify someone who should
be honored as "100 Years
of Great Women." After I was released, I was asked
what I thought of Jane
Fonda and the anti-war movement. I said that I held
Joan Baez's husband in
very high regard, for he thought the war was wrong,
burned his draft card
and went to prison in protest. If the other anti-war
protesters took this
same route, it would have brought our judicial
system to a halt and ended
the war much earlier, and there wouldn't be as many
on that somber black
granite wall called the Vietnam Memorial. This is
democracy. This is the
American way. Jane Fonda, on the other hand, chose
to be a traitor, and went
to Hanoi, wore their uniform, propagandized for the
communists, and urged
American soldiers to desert. As we were being
tortured, and some of the POWs
murdered, she called us liars. After her heroes-the
North Vietnamese
communists-took over South Vietnam, they
systematically murdered 80,000
South Vietnamese political prisoners. May their
souls rest on her head
forever. Shame! Shame! (History is a heavy sword in
the hands of those who
refuse to forget it. Think of this the next time you
see Ms. Fonda-Turner at
a Braves game). Please take the time to read and
forward to as many people
as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on
her computer and she needs
to know that
"we will never forget". Lest we forget..."100 years
of great women" Jane
Fonda should never be considered.
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